Podcast No. 92 Posted 03/06/2012   Leave a comment

Podcast No. 92 Posted 03/06/2012

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TITLE:  Truths of Terasem – The “What” is Terasem?  2.1-2.1.6

SUB TITLE: Terasem as a “Transreligion”

SUMMARY:  Terasem embraces “belief” the way science embraces theory and fact.  There are commonalities that Terasem shares with most religions, but one important area where Terasem stands apart is on the method proposed for reaching immortality.  With Terasem, technology is the answer.

Music  – “Earthseed” fades out, as the voice recording begins.


(Fred)  Hi, we’re Fred & Linda Chamberlain, with podcast 92 on the Truths of Terasem.  Today we’re going to talk about Terasem as a ‘transreligion’ and what that means.  It brings together many different areas of belief, without denying any of them except any dogma as the only truth.  More simply, Terasem embraces “belief” the way science embraces theory and fact.

(Linda)  It is important to emphasize that Terasem constantly seeks to rid itself of any form of dogma.  The Truths of Terasem are worded in poetic and fundamental ways that have sometimes been seriously misinterpreted.  Part of what we’re out to accomplish in these podcasts is prevent such misconceptions.

(Fred)  For example, the words “collective consciousness” are frequently used in the Truths of Terasem, but the term “collective” evokes preconceptions like brutal, inhuman suppression of individuality as practiced in Russia after the communists’ 1918 revolution, which forced upon everyone a social system virtually the opposite of what Terasem is out to develop.

(Linda)  Another example is the specific guidance offered in the practice of daily yoga at four hour intervals.  That’s intended as a way of suggesting what may be helpful in pursuing personal development, at the same time accepting each individual’s physical limitations and preferences.  With that flexibility in mind, let’s get into the subject matter for today.

(Fred)  Today, we’re starting the second major precept. 2.0:  “What is Terasem?”  And this is addressed by the statement, “Terasem is a transreligion that includes all religions the way a forest includes its trees.”

(Linda)  The first Expansion that follows the overall precept is 2.1:  “Forest of Terasem means good lives are immortal, and good faiths are welcome in cyber-heaven.”  To quote from the Terasemfaith.org website FAQs, under “Why is TMT a transreligion?” we find “Terasem is a transreligion because it transcends all other religions. This means it is consistent with them, and you don’t have to leave any other religion to be a part of the Terasem Movement Transreligion. Also, if you do not feel comfortable with any existing religion, you can still be part of the Terasem Movement Transreligion. This is because Terasem is beyond the scope of all existing religions.”

(Fred)  Next we have, as the first Element in the Expansion for today, 2.1.1:  “Fundamental to every religion is the immortality of the soul, which in Terasem is our consciousness.”  The idea of a soul affirms individual identity, and consciousness further narrows the nature of a soul to something that has consciousness as one of its capacities.  In the Truths of Terasem we find the term consciousness only applies to sentient beings with empathy and ethics.  Within these limits, the idea that souls can be immortal is more plausible.

(Linda)  We can take that a little further, where the term ‘soul’ is used.  Michael Perry, in Forever for All puts it this way:

“… the door remains open for a “nonmystical” soul, and indeed, the concept of Interchangeability would seem to require it. A person in effect is a computer program, a chunk of information that could be running on more than one physical device or piece of hardware. So the program becomes the soul.[11] With this interpretation, the soul is certainly not a material object, and, while it can be disrupted and destroyed, it can also be recreated so in effect is capable of surviving death.”

(Fred)  That really takes us to the concept of mindfiles!  In 2.1.2 we find: “Afterlives differ for good and evil, thus Terasem knows a joyful immortality means only good lives.”  It’s pretty clear that the usual description of Hell could not be interpreted as ‘joyful immortality’, and however we wish to interpret ‘evil’ it has no place in Heaven.

(Linda) Looking at 2.1.3, we have: “Identity migration amongst physical substrates honors Creation by continually bearing witness to its greatness.”  Earlier, we associated identity as being meaningful only when it involves consciousness at a high level, meaning it has a capacity for ethics and empathy.  As consciousness migrates from biological to non-biological substrates, it bears witness to the power of extropy to unfold higher and higher planes of existence.

(Fred)  In 2.1.4 we see: “Transferring identity to cyber-substrate is a matter of mannerisms, personality, recollections, feelings, beliefs, attitudes and values”.  The very first of Martine Rothblatt’s postings on her blog at mindclones.blogspot.com, dated Thursday, March 19, 2009, goes into this at length:

“What Are Mindfiles?   A mindfile is the sum of saved digital reflections about you. All of the stored emails, chats, texts, IMs and blogs that you write are part of your mindfile. All of the uploaded photos, slide shows and movies that involve you are part of your mindfile. Your search histories, clicked selections and online purchases, if saved, are part of your mindfile. Your digital life is your mindfile.”

(Linda) Further into the same blog she says:

“It should be noted that it takes no more effort than a daily hour in the gym to create a purposeful mindfile more reflective of you than the best biography.  For example, in one hour a day, over a period of five years, you would have 2000 hours of your life on video or 100,000 uploaded and described photos. A leading social scientist, William Sims Bainbridge, has created over 100,000 online questions, and associated psychometric analytical software, that he believes represents a person’s entire general set of feelings, beliefs, attitudes and values. Each question asks how positively or negatively you feel about a topic, and how important that topic is to you. Completing just 50 of these a day – about an hour’s effort at most – would complete them all in five years. A daily mindfile workout might consist of a short video, a few uploaded photos and a few Bainbridge questions. After a decade or so, your mindfile would be quite complete.”

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(Fred)  There’s a wealth of detail on Martine’s Mindclones blog.  The focus or theme changes with each posting, eventually to be 100, according to Martine’s projection.  The blog dated Sunday, May 3, 2009 is titled:  What Are Mindclones?  And to again quote a bit:

“A mindclone is a software version of your mind. He or she is all of your thoughts, recollections, feelings, beliefs, attitudes and values, and is experiencing reality from the standpoint of whatever machine their mindware is running on. Mindclones are mindfiles being used and updated by mindware that has been set to be a functionally equivalent replica of one’s mind. A mindclone is your software-based alter ego, doppelganger, or mental twin. If your body died, but you had a mindclone, you would not feel that you personally died, although the body would be missed more sorely than amputees miss their limbs.”

(Linda)  A little further down in the same blog, she continues with:

“Now, it is certainly true that an easy distinction can be drawn between an original identity and that of its mindclone. Simply by virtue of being a copy, the mindclone is not the original, and hence it can be said that the mindclone does not have the same identity as the original. Yet, this is a distinction without significance. It is analogous to claiming that identity changes over time because people grow and acquire new experiences. While there is no doubt that our personality evolves, and our thoughts change, we are still the same person – the same identity.

“So, why is it that we feel an uploaded version of our mind knows that it is an upload, and is thus not really us, whereas an aging version of our mind knows it is different from its youth, but is still definitely us? The reason is our deep-felt bias, based upon our entire human experience, that identity is substrate-specific. Some people take this so far as to believe that transplant recipients, especially of hearts, assume some of the identity of the organ donor.”

(Fred) And she wraps it up with:

“With mindcloning we will have our first experience with the technological possibility of substrate-independent identity. It will take some time for society to adapt. Ultimately, though, most people will understand that just as a person’s voice can be in two places simultaneously via telephone, their identity can be in two places simultaneously via mindcloning.”

 (Linda)  The same kind of thinking is reflected in Michael Perry’s, Forever for All, where he says:

“But a person, rather than being a static body of information that may exist in multiple copies, is a particular, ongoing process that evolves over time. At any given time this process is resident in a device that stores information, but cannot be identified either with the device or its momentary configuration. Other physical structures could be pressed into service for memory or abandoned as the case may be, and new information could be stored or old information copied or lost. The process does not remain static but changes, as does the information that describes it. Considered as a whole, then, the person is neither a material object nor a specific pattern of information.”

(Fred) The next Element is 2.1.5:  “Having multiple transferred identities for a single soul is just as joyous as having many children.”  Here again, it’s hard to improve on what Martine has said.  In her third blog in the series, she says:

“Perhaps deciding to have a mindclone is analogous to having a child. Once the child is born, you will always be a parent. Similarly, once a mindclone is created, you will always be a dual-substrate identity. Many parents have little or nothing to do with their offspring, but neither the parent nor the offspring can get the parental relationship out of their mind. Their identity has permanently been altered to include the fact that they are part of a (good or bad) parent-offspring relationship. Analogously, even if a mindclone parts ways with their original, neither will ever be able to forget the fact that someone else with their same mind exists. The creation of a cognitive doppelganger is an identity-altering experience.”

(Linda)  And we can bring that all together with 2.1.6:  “Souls will be reanimated via mindware and mindfiles because it is doable, respectful and completes Terasem.”  The idea of technological immortality is by no means the exclusive intellectual property of Terasem.  It is inspiring, in fact, to see so many of today’s thinkers making these same conclusions.  We have quoted Ray Kurzweil and James Gardner several times on these concepts.

(Fred) We recently found this exciting comment in the 2011 book Infinite Reality: Avatars, Eternal Life, New Worlds, and the Dawn of the Virtual Revolution by Jim Blascovich and Jeremy Bailenson:

“The National Science Foundation recently awarded a large grant to a team of scientists from the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Central Florida. These scholars were tasked with developing the technology to build a lifelike visual appearance and personality replica of specific individuals. The goal of the project is to develop the technology needed to accomplish such a task. To test the feasibility of the technology, they have chosen to capture, preserve, and reuse the expertise of retiring NSF program director, Dr. Alex Schwarzkopf. His doppelgänger is accurate in terms of appearance (they used a 3-D scanner to make the avatar look like its owner), nonverbal behavior (meticulously recorded via motion-capture technology), personality (by using a vast array of artificial-intelligence algorithms based on data collected during interviews with him), and emotions.”

(Linda)  Which brings us to the concept of mindware.   From Martine’s posting number two on Wednesday, April 8, 2009, titled “What is Mindware?” we learn:

“Mindware is operating system software that (a) thinks and feels the way a human mind does, and (b) sets its thinking and feeling parameters to match those discernable from a mindfile. Mindware relies upon an underlying mindfile the way Microsoft Word relies upon a text file. When appropriate parameters are set for mindware it becomes aware of itself and a cyberconscious entity is created.

“The richness of the cyberconscious entity’s thoughts and feelings are a function of its source mindfile. In the extreme case of no mindfile, the mindware thinks and feels as little as a newborn baby. If the mindware’s parameters are set haphazardly, or shallowly, a severely dysfunctional cyberconsciousness will result. In the normal case, however, of mindware having access to a real person’s mindfile, the resultant cyberconsciousness will be a mindclone of that person. It will think and feel the same, have the same memories, and be differentiated only by its knowledge that it is a mindclone and its substrate-based different abilities.”

(Linda)  Onward and upward!  Next week, we’ll be delving even more deeply into far reaching concepts.  That Expansion leads off with 2.2 “Omniscience, omnipotence and omnificience are what uniquely define God”.  After this, we find that the underlying Elements focus on how much unlike that our situation is, as yet, and what kind of stretch of the imagination it will take to conceive of getting there.  We’ll also look more deeply into ways of interpreting these transfinite ways of describing where we’re headed.  Join us for that adventure, where, near the end, we’ll encounter  2.2.5:  “Nanotechnology and geoethics are the tools for expanding Terasem into universe-wide omniscience, omnipotence and omnificence.”

(Fred)  Waking up in cyberspace means making a mindfile.  You can do that at either CyBeRev.org or LifeNaut.com, no fees to participate.  And you can create your autobiography, to be uploaded to CyBeRev.org by using the LifePact interview form.  Go to Terasemfaith.net and then go to Mindfile Building, about half way down the page.

(Linda) If you found the discussions of mindclones, mindfiles and mindware intriguing, but still have unanswered questions, go to mindclones.blogspot.com for fascinating discussions about these subjects.

(Fred)  Again, and we can’t say it often enough, big kudos to Mike Clancy, at Terasem, who created that challenging, fun, and addictive mindfile building game for the Android.  Check it out at PersonalityMD.com.

(Linda)  If you’ve been enjoying the music that we use on this series, which runs full length at the end of each podcast, it’s called Earthseed.  It’s the Terasem Anthem written by Martine Rothblatt, who also plays the flute and the keyboard.  If you’d like to experience that music in a video, with spectacular inspiring artwork, go to the Join! tab on the terasemfaith.net website.

(Fred)  Join us, and our quest for an endless and joyful future…

(Linda)  Come with us – into Tomorrow!

Closing music – no fade – full length.


Posted March 7, 2012 by Truths of Terasem - Podcasts in Uncategorized

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