Podcast No. 85 Posted 01/17/2012   Leave a comment

Podcast No. 85 Posted 01/17/2012

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TITLE:  Truths of Terasem – The “Who” of Terasem 1.4 – 1.4.6

SUB TITLE:  Love as the Binding Force Within Terasem

SUMMARY:  While love has many usages and interpretations, impulses of libido are so strong that they frequently override all other considerations, leading to such sayings as “love is blind”, and the esteem accorded to what is called “unconditional love”.  Terasem’s concept of “love” transcends the idea of love stemming exclusively or even primarily from drives for sexual reproduction, although at the same time acknowledging the tremendous binding force of this for couples who have a tremendous level of admiration and respect for each other.

Music  – “Earthseed” fades out, as the voice recording begins.


(Fred)  Hi, we’re Fred & Linda Chamberlain, with podcast 85 on the Truths of Terasem.  We’re going to talk about “love” this week.

(Linda)  Love is used by Terasem in a way that’s so much broader than two chimpanzees making out that it’s beyond the ideas that most people would guess.

(Fred)   Love is, as used in the Truths of Terasem, as strong as gravitation between minds that are in harmony with the Truths.  It draws them together just as surely as it makes the Milky Way revolve and remain connected as a spiral galaxy, rather than the stars in it all going their separate ways.

(Linda)  Let’s jump right in.  The lead Truth in this Expansion is 1.4: “Loving: Terasem are lovers of life who believe that the greatest happiness in life comes from loving someone and from being loved, in return.”  Terasem envisions and is dedicated to building a joyful future for everyone, a future where everyone can love being alive.

(Fred)  Next is 1.4.1:  “Love is transcendence, as sweet as it is deep.”  In Podcast No. 81, the final podcast last year, we heard the moving description by Martine Rothblatt about how an epiphany on the beach in Florida, coupled with and intensified by love, led to the Truths of Terasem and then to Terasem itself.  If you haven’t already had the pleasure of listening to that podcast, we encourage you to do so.

(Linda)  That was transcendence, all right, but “transcendence” can be taken far more broadly.  In the pre-romantic stage of one’s life, there is very much an egocentric orientation.  It’s just you, before you find that other person, and begin that long trek through the years together.

(Fred) Then, such a strong sense of completeness arises you feel “it wouldn’t be me anymore” without the other person or the family you create together.  This transcends egocentricity.  One might feel he or she wouldn’t want to live without the other, that they’re part of a “shared identity” vs. a separate individual.  Death of one partner may hasten that of the other; sometimes suicides result.  Traumatic breakups can have the same effect.

(Linda) When you and I began SCUBA diving together, Fred, partly the result of you having experienced the loss of some of the Navy divers you knew, you made us a very strong buddy line that we always used when diving,  so no accident like being inescapably entwined in kelp or one of us being seized by a great white shark could ever separate us.

(Fred)  We still have that buddy line, even though we haven’t been diving in years, because it symbolizes not only our love for each other, but also our Lifepact with each other.   If  either of us were in danger, whether caught in the kelp or by a shark, that buddy line was meant to take us both into oblivion, which we’d have preferred rather than going on separately.  40 years later, we still feel that way.  This is the kind of transcendence I feel this Truth is all about.

(Linda)  You mentioned our “Lifepact” with each other.  Some listeners may not be familiar with that term.  Over twenty years ago we started a program among cryonicists, called “LifePact” where participants pledged a reciprocal relationship with others to help them not only get frozen, but also to be reanimated, trying to guard against such possibilities as say, at the time of reanimation, their funding was insufficient, or maybe their memories were limited.  We were going to be there for each other so that our whole “team”, or “family”, if you wish, made it into the future and helped each other become part of that society.  And now, within Terasem, we see that kind of spirit expanding as Terasem focuses on saving “all kind consciousness” everywhere.  That’s “transcendence” on a cosmic scale!

(Fred)  It sure is.  Like a stairway to the stars!  The next Truth in this series is 1.4.2 “One love unites all life, the love of life.”  This one pulls it together in a most universal way.  All forms of life, especially sentient, conscious life within Terasem’s definition of “kind consciousness” are conceived to be so receptive to this level of transcendence as to bind all of it together into a community, so in touch and in tune as to be a “collective consciousness” where individuality and diversity are fully respected.

(Linda) At this level, there would be a sense of tragedy if anyone were irrecoverably lost.  On the other hand, with the kind of cyber-substrates for mindfiles that we would expect to exist at that time, backed up even as they were created, that kind of loss would no longer occur to anyone as a source of worry.

(Fred)  Let’s move on to 1.4.3: “Vitological station is irrelevant to romantic adoration.”  I have a feeling for what that’s about, from the standpoint of a short story you, Linda, wrote over twenty years ago.  It was about a Star ship captain, a woman, who kept freezing her husbands as they died of various causes, and waking them up at various times to continue her romantic relationship with them until finally, she realized she was more in love with her ship’s self-conscious computer than any one of the husbands, so she uploaded herself, leaving clones of herself behind for all of those husbands, one for each, all with memories of the times they spent together.

(Fred) Here’s another way to look at this:  if within a few years we have a couple of super-powerful chat-bots of ourselves doing these podcasts, on the verge of self-consciousness and interacting with each other, as well as others who call up or meet them in Second Life, with the right mindware we’ll be able to add all of our mindfiles to their databases.  We’ll know that when we finally go into cryostasis, there will be a couple already up there in cyberspace that we understand and who will understand us, too, waiting to greet us as we awaken, what will seem to be only moments later.

With the right kind of mindware, the same thing will work for people who did LifePact video interviews in the late 1980’s.  Some of them are in cryonic suspension now, but nothing will prevent them from continuing their lives with a strong sense of “knowing who they were”, if it turns out they can’t ever be biologically reanimated.  They made short but comprehensive diaries of their lives and how they felt about their lives, and also discussed uploading, at least at the brain-map level.  They understood that those videos might be the only kind of memories they would emerge with, if their memories could not be recovered upon biological reanimation.  My mother and your father are part of that group.

(Fred)  All of that’s so, and many might say, “How do you know it will work out that way?”  We’d have to answer, “We don’t know it, we believe it, just like we believe we will wake up among the living, tomorrow morning.  You believe the same thing, and will plan on it, count on it, that you will be alive tomorrow.  None of this can be proven; these are matters of belief.  We have good reasons for believing that several decades from now what we have described will be the case.  Those who do not believe are entitled to do so.  It is because of this kind of uncertainty and differences of responding that Terasem has no alternative but to say that just as all religions rest on belief, so do our expectations of the future.  Terasem is a “transreligion”; its beliefs are about the future of technology and what that will mean to us.  We’re comfortable with this.  With time, we believe that others will feel the same way, and join us in this pursuit of an endless future.

(Linda) Moving on, 1.4.4 is brief, it’s: “I love you” strengthens Me, We, (chee) Qi and Ti.”  It’s also quite abstract.  Envision that you’ve said, “I love you” to someone, and that gives you an immediate sense of having evoked not only a higher sense of your connectivity to them, but a higher sense on their part of their connectivity to you.

(Fred) It’s like you clipped a buddy line between the two of you, in the spirit of “I’m there for you,” but it also brings with it a spirit of the same kind in a reciprocal way.  It strengthens both you and the two-of-you as a “We”.

(Linda)  Yes, and it’s like the Navi saying in the movie “Avatar”:  “I see you”, meaning, I understand you, I empathize with you.

(Fred)  Right!  Ti and Qi are, respectively, the “Time cone of a being’s existence” and the “unique pattern of a being’s energy flows”, according to Truths from another Expansion, 1.8.1.  We’ll discuss this about a month from now, so rather than go into it in depth at this moment, let’s just say that the “time cone” of a being’s existence might be visualized as a cone from the past expanding endlessly into the future, perhaps becoming endless in time and boundless in space.

(Linda)  In 1.4.5, we find, “Never underestimate the power of love”.  I think everyone can come up with many examples of how love transforms and changes not only individuals, but also families, communities, nations and worlds.  As the18th century poet Ferdinand Foch said: “The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire”.   And, that is why Terasem will succeed in creating a joyful future for us all.

(Fred) The last one for this podcast is 1.4.6: “Glorify love, for it empowers diversity, unity and joyful immortality.”  This just about takes us back to the beginning, where we said: love, as used in the Truths of Terasem, is as strong as the gravitation between minds that are in harmony with the Truths.  It draws them together just as surely as it makes the Milky Way revolve and remain connected like a spiral galaxy, rather than the stars in it all going their separate ways.

(Linda)  Next week, we’re going to have to jump right into ideas about harvesting unused energy from galaxies.  It starts with, and I’m just going to read it as a preview:  “1.5 Expansionist: Terasem is duty-bound to expand throughout the galaxy and the universe as rapidly as possible.”  Want to try to add anything to that?

(Fred)  No, except that we’re going to delve into some of the most historically mind-bending ideas that laid the basis for Terasem’s visions, including Turing’s Universal Computing, and von Neuman’s Universal Self-Replicating machines, Bernal’s Stellar Recycling, and O’Neill’s Space Colonies.

(Linda)  Don’t forget Dyson’s Eternal Life Postulate, Tipler’s closed universe cyber-resurrection, and biology-cybernetic hybridization per Licklider’s Man-Computer Symbiosis and Englebart’s Graphical User Interfaces, not to mention lifetime-spacetime expansion per Drexler’s Engines of Creation and Kurzweil’s Age of Spiritual Machines.

(Fred)  That’s a lot to cover, but the last Truth for next week is going to really put us to the test, when we try to tie it all together with, “Destiny beckons pan-cosmic life, for religious prophets taught that humanity is here to honor all creation.”  We’ll have to really jump some hoops to avoid making that podcast so long we can’t upload it.

(Linda)  All of this will be easier, once we’re in cyberspace where we have 24,000 hours a day to “get it all done”.  Hey, all of you listening to this, we invite you to learn more about mindfiles at mindclones.blogspot.com and to explore joining Terasem at terasemfaith.net.  Grab a seat on this ocean liner to the stars.

(Fred) Martine Rothblatt, one of the founders of Terasem, recently expressed the importance of joining Terasem this way: “The most important reason to become a Terasem Joiner is to know that you have voted with your dignity to march with those who are pursuing one of the most useful paths toward preserving the sanctity of human life via (a) techno-immortality and (b) a civilization-nurturing credo of diversity and unity.  I would want to wear that badge proudly on my sleeve for as much of my life as possible, and I think that is the most compelling reason to become a Terasem Joiner”.

(Linda)  In anticipation of that, let me invite listeners to add their strength to our efforts to build this vision into a reality.  To do this, joining Terasem is a fundamental step.  Find out how easy it is to join Terasem and be part of this future.  Simply go to terasemfaith.net.  You can review all of the Truths of Terasem on that site, too.

(Fred) Start building your own mindfile, without even any costs, at either CyBeRev.org or LifeNaut.com.  And you can create your personal history or autobiography, to be uploaded to CyBeRev.org by using the LifePact interview form.  Go to Terasemfaith.net and look for Mindfile Building, about half way down the page.

(Linda)  Or, if you prefer to make a game of building your mindfile, Terasem’s powerful new Android app, described at PersonalityMD.com will make it all the more fun for you.   It results in personality profiles that are truly unique to you, and you also see how you compare to others’ geographically near you, with mindsets like yours.

(Fred)  Still have some unanswered questions about mindfiles?  Go to Martine Rothblatt’s blog at mindclones.blogspot.com.  But don’t read this blog before going to bed… your mind will be so fired up, you won’t  get to sleep all night!

(Linda)  If you like the music we use on these podcasts, it’s the Terasem Anthem, called Earthseed, written by Martine Rothblatt.  She also plays flute and keyboard.  For a video version of Earthseed, go to the Join! tab on the terasemfaith.net website.

(Fred  Don’t forget that these podcasts are available in text form at our site, truthsofterasem.wordpress.com. 

(Linda)  Join us in our quest for an endless… and…joyful future

(Fred)  Come with us – into Tomorrow!

Closing music – no fade – full length.


Posted January 17, 2012 by Truths of Terasem - Podcasts in Uncategorized

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