Podcast No. 68 Posted 10/10/2011   Leave a comment

Podcast No. 68 Posted 10/10/2011

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Music  – “Earthseed” fades out, as the voice recording begins.

TITLE:  Truths of Terasem – The Why of Terasem  5.7-5.7.6

SUB TITLE:  The evolutionary pathway to god.

SUMMARY:  This week we look at a magical transformation, where the vision of Terasem we spoke about last week is a glove-fit for what most conventional religions mean by “God”: an evolutionary outcome of exponential infotechnology based on the development of nanotechnology, which in turn depends on collective insistence upon Geoethics”

(Fred)  Hi, we’re Fred & Linda Chamberlain, with podcast number 68 on the Truths of Terasem.

(Linda)  Here’s where we talk about what Terasem will ultimately evolve into.

(Fred)  Yes, it is.  And the challenge is indeed enormous.  Here, we address the really big idea that as Terasem moves from a state of networked human identities toward a universal collective consciousness, like we discussed last week, those attributes assigned to “God” by early human religions will become in fact realizable through technology as the Singularity takes place.

(Linda)   How can we even begin to describe a thing like that?  I mean, imagine just for a moment that Leonardo da Vinci had come up with a drawing of a Boeing 747 and said, “Here’s how man will be able to fly like a bird!”  Not only would he have been thought totally out of his mind, but in fact he wouldn’t have had any basis of sufficient science or technology to even approach such a vision realistically.  It seems like what we’re delving into here is terribly elusive!

(Fred)  That’s certainly how most people will encounter it on the surface, at first glance, but that’s what happens when you try to visualize where things may lead if you look not just far ahead, but “endlessly” ahead.  The simplest example, for me, is the attempt to depict two parallel lines going to infinity.  What do you do?  You draw what looks like an upside down “V” where the sidewalk in front of your shrinks to a point on the horizon.  You know the lines are supposed to be perfectly parallel, but the eye sees them as converging to a point.  I think this is the kind of thing we’re getting into here, but on a far more abstract level.

(Linda)  I know, but there’s a discomfort in it, isn’t there?  It’s such a different way of thinking about things than most people are used to!

(Fred)  It sure is!  The “flat earth” mentality hangs on today in many ways, even after we’ve “walked on the moon” and sent the Voyager spacecraft on their way to the stars.  It must have been terribly disconcerting to envision that the Earth was “round”, floating in space, after millennia of envisioning that it was flat, as it so certainly appears to be at first glance.  We still talk about the Sun ‘rising in the East’ and ‘setting in the West’, although we know perfectly well that in the first case the Earth is ‘rotating toward the Sun’ and in the second that it is ‘rotating away from it’.

(Linda)  Great example!  Let’s plunge in!  5.7 says: “Expect God in the future by building Godness today”.   In order to dig into that, I’m reminded of a comment you posted not so long ago on one of Martine Rothblatt’s mindclone blog postings.  She had talked about the fact that some people may think it will be weird for there to be cyberbeings such as you and I envision becoming, but offered lots of thoughts about the fact that it would be a really good kind of weird, the kind of weirdness we should hope the future would hold, vs. much worse kinds of weirdness that we can see all around us in the world today.  It was a great treatment of the subject, but in reading your comment I found you slipping right into the kind of thing this set of the Truths of Terasem points to.  About “godness”!  It was your posting.  Why don’t you read it:

(Fred)  Okay.

“As mindclones become self-conscious and extremely intelligent, the mixed feelings held by many will be that while we need them and can’t do without them, we also have to be able to “trust” them. Any “mean streak” in a mindclone could be disastrous. Mindclones will hold so much responsibility and power that they must be positively oriented, compassionate and devoid of all those things we accept so easily in each other by saying, “It’s only human!” (to be that way).

“One lecturer on philosophical topics of the early 1970’s, Nathaniel Brandon, commented on the notion that God was conceived to be “all good”. He stated that in the days before monotheistic religions, the viewpoint might have been that if the God of the Sea turned out to be a malevolent monster, perhaps the God of Lightning would intervene on one’s behalf, and that even the “God of Gods” (Zeus, Marduk, etc.) at least had to contend with their “fellow Gods” in matters where good and evil were concerned. “But,” Brandon added, “If there were only one God, and it were a vicious tyrant, then this would be horrible; there would be no escape from eternal tyranny, thus, the monotheistic God had to be conceived of as “all good”.

“In many ways, biohumans will soon come to think of mindclones, who sooner or later will “run the world”, as “Gods”, due to their greater power, and the only way to be safe as that comes about will be to choose solutions in which there is a high degree of confidence that these personalities will be wholly benevolent and constructive, in other words “good”.

“One workable way this might be achieved is for these self-conscious and “Godlike” entities to be bound by an untarnishable code of ethics, accountable to each other, focused on the ridding of the world of cruelty (and certainly not being responsible for any of it themselves). They must be pledged to seek better answers to any problems that arise, varied enough in their skills to handle any conceivable problem, and yet united in their dedication to positive values and committed enough to a common ethical code so that biopeople (the great majority of humans, who are still biological) can “sleep at night”.

“Where would such a community of cyberpersons come from? How could a collection of humans be gathered together who would, in seeking to be emulated and virtually “become” cyberbeings, at the same time be willing to be obligated to such a high standard of conduct? The answer is that this is precisely what Terasem is creating, a community of persons accountable to each other and pledged to unity of high ethical standards (under the name “Geoethical Nanotechnology”), who want at the same time to able to “be themselves as individuals” in cyberspace, experiencing so much positive reinforcement that there is no better way to describe this than calling it “joyful immortality”.

“There is a wholly rational basis for the parallels envisioned between the “Terasem Collective Consciousness” and the ideas humans have nurtured since their earliest days, of what a “God” must be like. There is only one way for mindclones to be “free and independent” and at the same time to be “safe to empower”. Not everyone will want to have to toe the mark to such a demanding standard, but neither will it be acceptable for there to be a group of super-mentalities loose in cyberspace who are constantly at war with each other, battling in the ways described in fiction concerning Greek or Roman Gods, largely unsympathetic to the suffering of “lesser beings”.

“Nanotechnology must be safely developed. It will be developed in any case, but if it is not safely developed, then the horrors of a “grey goo” catastrophe will make earlier fears of a nuclear holocaust seem only a mere premonition of dangers of obliteration of the entire biosphere, where a single mistake could “end the world”.

“The future, in any case, will be ‘weird’. Let’s be sure it is a very, very good kind of ‘weirdness’!

(Linda) Well, with that as background, let’s get back to the Truth of Terasem we’re talking about.  To repeat, it says, in 5.7: “Expect God in the future by building Godness today.”  Well, that’s exactly what we’re doing by moving into an era of technology where cyberbeings are going to ‘go’ self-conscious.  Just as your comment on Martine’s blog suggests, we’re already in the process of building godness.

(Fred) In the elements of this Expansion, we begin with: 5.7.1 “Every religion says God, and only God, is all-knowing, all-good and all-powerful.”  Well, in fact that is what every religion, or at least 99.99% of them, say, and there’s a good reason for it.  Just as Nathaniel Brandon pointed out, it’s very scary to say anything else.

(Linda) The history of technological advances, all the way back to the discovery of how to tame fire, teaches us that knowledge can be used for either good or evil.  Evil can be taken to be the baggage that permitted us to unfold through extropy to our present state, where competition with combat, domination and exploitation, true “survival of the fittest” was the mechanism.

(Fred) Absolutely.  As we continue to build ‘godness’, that kind of evolutionary baggage must all be left behind.  We must find people who grasp this vision and pledge to be totally transparent to each other, totally accountable to each other, without hidden agendas, compassionate toward their past acts, understanding their evolutionary roots and how it is now essential to modify those roots so that they no longer keep us mired in competition and domination.

(Linda) In 5.7.2 we find: “Xanadu would describe earth, or even freedom from cruelty, if anything all-knowing, all-good and all-powerful existed.”  Xanadu is not discussed elsewhere in the Truths, but Wikipedia gives us, “Xanadu was visited by Venetian explorer Marco Polo in 1275, who wrote the following, one of the most complete descriptions of the city as it existed: “And when you have ridden three days from the city last mentioned, between north-east and north, you come to a city called Chandu, which was built by the Khan now reigning. There is at this place a very fine marble Palace, the rooms of which are all gilt and painted with figures of men and beasts and birds, and with a variety of trees and flowers, all executed with such exquisite art that you regard them with delight and astonishment.”  This was a city of ancient China envisioned to come as close to Heaven as possible.  One might, at that time, have imagined that a “God” must have created it.  Perhaps the meaning here is that almost one thousand years ago humans had begun to make physical strides toward what they envisioned as perfection, but what will be far easier to achieve first in cyberspace, and then later by emulating physical reality once full-scale replicator nanotechnology is available.

(Fred) In 5.7.3 we find, “Partial Godness now exists to the extent the collective consciousness of Terasem now prevails.”  We have to move toward where we’re going in small steps, but they’re getting larger and coming in faster succession as suggested in the next Truth, 5.7.4, “Exponential infotechnology and nanotechnology growth enables Terasem to rapidly evolve toward our future all-knowing, all-powerful God.”

(Linda) This is consistent with all that we’ve said earlier.  5.7.5 tells us, “Collective insistence upon geoethics and the Terasem Way of Life makes our evolving Godness all-good.”  We need to have the widest possible consent and agreement about Geoethics, in order to escape the possibilities of self-destruction as replicator nanotechnology is developed, or even irreversible damage to humankind earlier by way of biotech catastrophes or nuclear war.

(Fred) Finally, 5.7.6 sums it up with “Terasem is God-in-the-making because Terasem is becoming all-knowing, all-good and all-powerful, and is partially so now.”  This is an affirmation of what we’re committed to.  The endpoint is far off, but the rate of approach is increasingly rapid.  The Singularity is near.

(Linda)  The end of the podcast is also near.  Next week we’ll examine the ways in which Terasem’s trans-religious themes are in synch with monotheism, and how hope and prayer can aid reason in building our  collective consciousness.  Terasem’s vision of cyberspace is that it can be a pathway to what we’ve been talking about as “joyful immortality” from the first, but only if we “keep it clean”.  There is even the idea that morality is “the purpose of life’ in that it’s goal is to make life better for all.  Some principles are defined as “Eternal truths” and we explore ways to make sacred holidays and artifacts the “wellsprings for memes”.

(Fred)  Right.  Some visions, yet to be validated as scientifically possible have to be contingently taken as “matters of belief”, especially in the need to respect the uniqueness of others.  United we stand — divided we fall.  Love as an experience teaches us that joy is wonderful and sadness is terrible, and that immortality is everywhere believed in because it is wired into the human soul.  Explaining the purpose of life is as simple as seeing life’s beauty, and wishing it everywhere, which leads to a kind of soulful certainty that this is what the Multiverse must become.

(Linda)  Hey, everybody, join Terasem at terasemfaith.net if you want to share in this adventure.  Your “future in cyberspace starts with involvement in the programs of CyBeRev.org and LifeNaut.com, no fees to participate.  And you can create your personal history or autobiography, to be uploaded to CyBeRev.org by using the LifePact interview form.  Go to Terasemfaith.net and go to Mindfile Building, about half way down the page.

(Fred) And if you want to preserve your DNA very inexpensively, you can do that at LifeNaut.com, too.   For those who can’t afford cryostasis at this time, the most practical approach to identity preservation is to have a mindfile plus a biofile (your DNA).  Take the BioFile tab at truthsofterasem.wordpress.com for additional information on the cell storage program.

(Linda)  Again, and we can’t say it often enough, big kudos to Mike Clancy, at Terasem, who created that challenging, fun and addictive mindfile building game for the Android. The multiple layers of the game ramp up the challenge very quickly.  While you try to build motor neurons within a brain, you encounter plaques that obstruct your path and you have to dodge macrophages that are hunting you down.  Check it out at PersonalityMD.com.

(Fred)  And if you still need to blow a few more of your neurons, go to  mindclones.blogspot.com for fascinating discussions about mindclones, mindfiles and mindware.  And if you want to read the text of our podcasts, to help to dig deeper into the details, or maybe find websites that you weren’t able to write down, go to truthsofterasem.wordpress.com.  And don’t forget, Terasem has a priority list; those who join earlier are most likely to make the jump to cyberspace sooner.  The longer you wait, the longer the line will get!

(Linda)  If you’ve been enjoying the music that we use on this podcast series, which runs full length at the end of each podcast, it’s called Earthseed.  It’s the Terasem Anthem written by Martine Rothblatt, who also plays the flute and the keyboard.  If you’d like to experience that music in a video, with spectacular inspiring artwork, go to the Join! tab on the terasemfaith.net website.

(Fred)  Join us, and our quest for an endless future…

(Linda)  Come with us – into Tomorrow!

Closing music – no fade – full length.


Posted October 18, 2011 by Truths of Terasem - Podcasts in Uncategorized

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