Podcast No. 67 Posted 10/03/2011   Leave a comment

Podcast No. 67 Posted 10/03/2011

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Music  – “Earthseed” fades out, as the voice recording begins.

TITLE:  Truths of Terasem – The Why of Terasem  5.6 – 5.6.6

SUB TITLE:  Interpreting the Terasem Vision in Terms of Religious Parallels

SUMMARY:  Terasem began with the vision that the love of two persons could go on forever.  For this to be reasonable, it seemed that a society would have to emerge, transcending current limitations of humankind, where a state of “joyful immortality” would exist.  This was conceived to be the outcome of successfully surviving a technological “Singularity”, but many aspects were so far reaching that only religious parallels seemed appropriate in describing them.

(Fred)  Hi, we’re Fred & Linda Chamberlain, with podcast number 67 on the Truths of Terasem.

(Linda)  Today we start with 5.6, the vision of Terasem, and next week we move to the ultimate outcome that could spring from it.

(Fred)  For those who might not have read the synopsis prior to listening to today’s podcast, it reads, “Terasem began with the vision that the love of two persons could go on forever.  For this to be reasonable, it seemed that a society would have to emerge, transcending current limitations of humankind, where a state of “joyful immortality” would exist.  This was conceived to be the outcome of successfully surviving a technological “Singularity”, but many aspects were so far reaching and vast that only religious parallels seemed appropriate in describing them.”

(Linda)  One thing that really strikes me about this expansion is the use of unfamiliar words.  They’re from various non-English languages, but they fit together in such a harmonious way.

(Fred)  That’s right.  It’s a premonition of what a great thing it will be once we’re able to experience the cultural history of Earth from within cyberspace, with a full fluency of all its languages.  It will expand our way of expressing things enormously, and that will be just the beginning of what we’ll do with language when we have virtually perfect, unlimited memories.

(Linda) The Truths of Terasem themselves give us brief glimpses of some of these words but we’ll combine these with the definitions accessible on the Internet, and you’ll see how wide the potential implications are.  For example, there’s the term Hozh’q, which Terasem describes in 6.6.1 as “the conscious mind’s vision of a beautiful life, entails goodness, order, vitality, happiness and harmony.”  Yet, an online source says that it means:

“Hozh’q (from the Navajo language)  means ‘the beauty of life, as seen and created by the person’.  For the Navajo, this is something that grows from a human being and spreads outward to permeate the universe.

(Fred) Well, “grows from a human being and spreads outward to permeate the universe” and the fact that the idea is of Navajo origin adds a lot to it, for me.

(Linda) Having at least a look at this one term’s interpretation from both the Truths of Terasem themselves and online sources, let’s plunge directly into the elements of this Expansion.  5.6 tells us: “Visions of Terasem sprang from one person’s Hozh’q to become universal Alam al-mithral.”  Knowing that Hozh’q means, in terms of both our sources of interpretation, the conscious mind’s vision of a beautiful life, we’re still left with explaining the last part of it, which is that it becomes universal Alam al-mithral.

(Fred) Other areas of the Truths of Terasem use the term Alam al-mithral in ways that relate to both personal commitment and inspiration. 6.4.6 relates it to being accountable for our actions and inactions, embracing diversity in our community and our lives, respecting the autonomy of all consciousness, talking openly about issues and concerns, helping others to help themselves, always being open to new ideas, and focusing on strength, health, and happiness as foundations of mindset.

(Linda) Now, we can put this all together to tie in personal responsibility for one’s actions and lifestyle to a cosmic vision of destiny.  5.6 tells us that this is what happens when “the conscious mind’s vision of a beautiful life with goodness, order, vitality, happiness and harmony” comes to grips with what’s required in terms of one’s practice of life on the day to day level.  That can then be extended to what one might think of as one’s ultimate destiny.  And, we’re only at the beginning of looking at the six underlying elements of this expansion.

(Fred) In the first of these, 5.6.1, we find, “Sharing Hozh’q, the beauty of life as seen and created by a person, is the goal.”  This indicates that the vision of Terasem came from an individual person.  And it’s important to note that there is a goal, and the goal is to share that vision.

(Linda) In 5.6.2, this is expanded to, “Propagating hozh’q is the purpose of Terasem obligation to author self.”  Once we grasp a vision of this kind, making it a key part of our mindfiles becomes a duty.  We can tell this from the content of 1.8.6, which states, “Authoring-self recreates one’s mannerisms, personality, recollections, feelings, beliefs, attitudes and values, until Turing-equivalence is achieved.”

(Fred) That’s mindfiles for you!  The obligation is to make the foundation of one’s personality, prior to uploading, a positive outlook and mindset.  In other words, the goal is to carry as little evolutionary “mean-streak” baggage as possible with us into cyberspace.

(Linda) In 5.6.3, we find: “Reve a deux of a soul-mated pair nurtured the original Hozh’q toward Alam al-mithral.”  Without belaboring the translation, this can be expressed in English by saying, “The dream shared by two, a soul-mated pair, nurtured the original vision of “a beautiful life” to the expanded idea that to make this happen, it was going to take a transformation or transcendence of mindset and lifestyle, and a vision of a destiny that was cosmological in nature.

(Fred)  And, 5.6.4 says: “Alam al-mithral emerges as the world where the shared vision of Terasem becomes the shared reality.”  Clearly, a shared reality, as I read it here, means a shared sense of destiny, going beyond a limited set of commitments to personal transcendence and reference to inspiration by means of a cosmic perspective.

(Linda) In 5.6.5 we find, “Neuralspace will reach out from Alam al-mithral to encompass the multiverse.”  Perhaps this means that beyond the physical and sociological attributes of Alam al-mithral, lies the emergence of such a highly interconnected network of minds that all of them experience the presence of the others as if they were intertwined neurons of a quasi-infinite being, independent and uniquely diverse.

(Fred) And at the same time so in touch with the others that it would be as if a giant orchestra were playing with no need of a conductor with a baton in hand glancing feverishly at the score of music they all were playing.  Instead, the music would be what it was, as a consequence of all who contributed to it, without any such necessity for hierarchical administration.

(Linda) Finally for this Expansion, in 5.6.6 we have, “Great jugenspace, the conjunction of all neuralspaces, shall be the reality that nurtures our joyful immortality.”  In this case, the term “jugenspace”, spelled with a “J”, corresponds closely to another term found elsewhere in the Truths, “Yugenspace”, with a “Y” which 3.5 describes as, “the ultra-immense conglomeration of intersecting emulated realities that constitutes the future reality of Terasem.”  Perhaps the term is just spelled differently in different languages.

(Fred) Or, perhaps these two terms are not intended to refer to exactly the same thing, but both of them use the term reality or realities in such a way as to encourage us to expect them to be about the same.  We’ll take it to mean that as the entire universe becomes emulated and principally comprised of substrate for consciousness, the “conjunction of all neuralspaces” would refer to that collective consciousness itself, without necessarily specifying the particulars of all the substrates on which it existed.

(Linda)  All that makes me want to talk a little more about “love that lasts forever”.  What might compel us to unite with others in a true “collective consciousness”?   And what might be the most fundamental “core molecular structure” of such a collective consciousness?  Does “love” play a part in this?  Is love, perhaps, the “glue” that might hold it all together?

(Fred) You’re right.  It’s too important to skip over, and some background is needed. The carbon atom is an interesting example of an intact unit that has potential tremendous strength of external bonding.  Internally, it is of course a six-proton atom, meaning six positive electrical charges, supporting two electrons in the innermost electron shell and four in the next one out.  It’s very unlikely to be split, except by some extraordinarily powerful nuclear impact, and externally, it can bond to four others of its own kind and form the diamond lattice, which among natural molecular forms is the most indestructible periodic crystal we know of.

(Linda)  The other part of this example is Helium, with two protons.   We’ve discussed how Helium is one of the most independent, that is non-binding, of atoms.  Its two internal protons are like the two minds of a very closely mind-linked couple, whirling in an internal dialogue that makes them seem very isolated, distant, but in combination with other couples like themselves, might they not be able to very strongly bond, in the way that Terasem describes as c-cubes?  Three Helium atoms do, in fact, combine to form carbon, in the so-called “Triple-Alpha Process” of ‘carbon stars’.  Is that how “love” might come into it?

(Fred)  I think so, Linda.  Let’s imagine a couple so tightly bonded, like two “protons” locked together in an embrace, that it seems as if they might go on “forever”; soul-mates  committed to a kind of nuclear “collective consciousness”.  Such a couple might choose oblivion over separation, the sense that absolute death would be preferable to being torn apart.  Yet, if bonded to others of their own kind, along the lines Terasem suggests in its c-cube / c-quad type network, then these groups might have the potential, like carbon atoms, for not only being relatively indestructible, but linking further outward.

(Linda) So, couples like that might have, if strongly enough bonded internally, what it takes to be part of a “diamond” forming group of c-cubes.  In partnership with other similar groups of couples, they could “branch out”, leading to a network in which individual differences, diversities of the various couples, could make them like an aperiodic crystal, capable of networking outward endlessly?

(Fred)  Yes.  Taking the broadest view, one might say that setting aside the usual artifacts of biological evolution, the gender-gaps of the Mars-Venus paradigm where men and women are drawn to each other and yet doomed to be part of Mother Nature’s plan of natural selection, any two people strongly bonded internally like Helium atoms could link with other such mind-pairs to form elemental “carbon-atoms” of human networking as suggested by Terasem’s c-cubes, and then link outward from there.

Naturally, we’d expect them to be united by principles held in common like Geoethical Nanotechnology and embody Terasem’s levels of consciousness as defined by logical ethics and compassion.

(Linda)  That sounds reasonable, and so substituting mind-bonding for strictly gender-based attraction, which would embrace all kinds of transgenderism, the ‘love based’ couples could even be pledged to other couples’ survival within their ‘carbon-atom’ c-cubes in a LifePact way, reaching out to other c-cubes and producing a kind of aperiodic societal crystal that could hang together and expand into the cosmos.

(Fred)  One thing that worries me, Linda, is the focus on couples.  Where would individuals fit in?  Aren’t they going to be part of this network too?

(Linda)  Of course!  It’s more a matter of mind-state and mind-set, than the necessity to be a couple.  Some people, both women and men, have such active minds that they are continually locked into “internal conversations” within their own brains, or rather, minds.  They also have the integrity to question their own conclusions, to challenge their own thinking, you might say, in the style that you described so well in that thing you wrote back in 1970, “Two Minds”.  In effect, people like this are already living a Two Minds existence within themselves!   They’ll do just fine, in such a network !

(Fred)  From other models of this kind, not restricted to a relatively simple helium-carbon paradigm such as we have envisioned, it then seems likely that Terasem’s future community, in which unity and diversity are both needed, could evolve in a stable way, at the root of which could be a great deal of what might be “love intended to go on forever”.  Individuals who have an internal “Two Minds” character like you described can certainly be a part of this!

(Linda)  Right, Fred, and next week we’ll see a magical transformation.  We’ll look at how what we’ve been talking about today is a glove-fit for what most conventional religions mean by “God”.  You and I, who started out as staunch, Objectivist atheists 40 years ago, certain that nothing like God existed, had no inkling that now we’d be exploring the idea that with the exponential expansion of a survivable cybercivilization outward into the universe, something like a God might emerge, and that the seeds of that might already be taking shape in the Transhumanist community.

(Fred)  I guess we ought to be an acid-test illustration of how this kind of thing might seem to make sense, but when you look at just the outline of that, it’s a wild blending of concepts.  If someone asked you to describe “God” to them and you replied, as the Truths of Terasem might, “It’s simply going to be an evolutionary outcome of exponential infotechnology based on the development of nanotechnology, which in turn depends on collective insistence upon Geoethics.”

(Linda) I’ll wager that they might reply “That doesn’t sound like anything I’ve heard talked about in Church, to date!”

(Fred) And you’d have to reply, “Everything is changing as we get closer to the Singularity, and the curvature of space is even beginning to become visible!”

(Linda)  I’ve never had so much fun with ideas before.  Is that why this is called “joyful immortality”?

(Fred) Well, never-ending adventure in ideas is certainly the root of it.   Join Terasem” at terasemfaith.net if you want to “surf the Singularity” with us.  Terasem is presently, and will remain, very much like a “family”.  It’s structured so that no matter how widespread it gets, in the end it will remain a network of small, comfortable groups, where individuality and diversity are given the greatest respect.

(Linda)  Joining Terasem is easy and costs nothing, as explained at terasemfaith.net. You can review all of the Truths of Terasem online at terasemweb.org or terasemfaith.net.

(Fred)  If what you find here fascinates you as much as it does the rest of us who are involved with Terasem, you can start setting up your own mindfiles right away, through either CyBeRev.org or LifeNaut.com.  And you can create your personal history or autobiography, to be uploaded to CyBeRev.org by using the LifePact interview form.  Go to Terasemfaith.net and go to Mindfile Building, about half way down the page.  There are no fees for building or storing your mindfile.

(Linda) If you want to create a BioFile by preserving your DNA, you can do that too, very inexpensively at LifeNaut.com.  And if you want to preserve your brain or your whole body through cryostasis, check out both alcor.org and cryonics.org.

(Fred)  For those of you who love games, Mike Clancy, at Terasem, has created the new mindfile building game for the Android. It’s like a maze.  It’s very fast paced and it is addictive.  Check it out on PersonalityMD.com.

(Linda) And I’d like to invite everyone to discover, if you haven’t already, my favorite blog:  mindclones.blogspot.com.  Martine Rothblatt will treat you to fascinating discussions about mindclones, mindfiles and mindware that will take you far, far beyond what we are able to just sample lightly in these podcasts.  And you can find the text version of these podcasts at truthsofterasem.wordpress.com.

(Fred)  If you’ve been enjoying the music that we use on this podcast series, it’s called Earthseed.  It’s the Terasem Anthem.  It was written by Martine Rothblatt, who also plays the flute and the keyboard.  If you’d like to experience that music in a video, with spectacular astronomical artwork, go to the Join! tab on the terasemfaith.net website.

(Linda)  Join us, and our quest for an endless future…

(Fred)  Come with us – into Tomorrow!


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Posted October 4, 2011 by Truths of Terasem - Podcasts in Uncategorized

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